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	<title>Comments on: It’s not Google Wave, its Tsunami</title>
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		<title>By: Robert Syputa</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-1629</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Syputa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 02:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has expressed that their goal is to build a development environment that provides, among other things, a &#039;social networking framework&#039; rather than discrete programs that run as silos.  This strategy requires providing open standard APIs and interfaces to proprietary social networks, LBS, and other common capabilities.

The &#039;name of the game&#039; for web OS and device suppliers is to be the &#039;best damn enablers&#039; as possible because that is what the market inevitably will gravitate towards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has expressed that their goal is to build a development environment that provides, among other things, a &#8216;social networking framework&#8217; rather than discrete programs that run as silos.  This strategy requires providing open standard APIs and interfaces to proprietary social networks, LBS, and other common capabilities.</p>
<p>The &#8216;name of the game&#8217; for web OS and device suppliers is to be the &#8216;best damn enablers&#8217; as possible because that is what the market inevitably will gravitate towards.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohit Agrawal</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-667</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohit Agrawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bing is a search engine can would be in competition with Google&#039;s search engine and not with Google Wave. Bing has brought in a few interesting features like watching videos inside the search engine itself without visiting the site. Bing also claims that it gives out fewer but more relevant results for the search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bing is a search engine can would be in competition with Google&#8217;s search engine and not with Google Wave. Bing has brought in a few interesting features like watching videos inside the search engine itself without visiting the site. Bing also claims that it gives out fewer but more relevant results for the search.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-662</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 21:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tell us about Microsoft’s Bing?  Is it a competing project?</description>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-660</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, great post, really well written. You should blog more about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, great post, really well written. You should blog more about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Michal Štefan</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-605</link>
		<dc:creator>Michal Štefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 07:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google Wave looks as a very promising tool, something that I was personally looking forward to for a very long time. But, as with all other communication channels, it really depends on the number of people using the communication platform, and even if I like to use it very much, it is unusefull, or at least not giving the full potential until the time most of the people will be on. Which will take a lot of time to Google, and would require mainly the motivation of people to recommend such platform to others.

And I agree that even if Google (the users of gmail) will be sucessful in this, it will become mainly the personal communication tool, with middle and large companies still communicating via Outlook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google Wave looks as a very promising tool, something that I was personally looking forward to for a very long time. But, as with all other communication channels, it really depends on the number of people using the communication platform, and even if I like to use it very much, it is unusefull, or at least not giving the full potential until the time most of the people will be on. Which will take a lot of time to Google, and would require mainly the motivation of people to recommend such platform to others.</p>
<p>And I agree that even if Google (the users of gmail) will be sucessful in this, it will become mainly the personal communication tool, with middle and large companies still communicating via Outlook.</p>
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		<title>By: Alok Kumar</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-603</link>
		<dc:creator>Alok Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 04:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel google popularity will make google wave successful. We have already seen the rush on orkut...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel google popularity will make google wave successful. We have already seen the rush on orkut&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Avishek Arang</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-597</link>
		<dc:creator>Avishek Arang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As per my understanding Wave wd be a common networking platform along with better UI &amp; sophisticated gadgets, that u may even get by configuring ur gmail settings. There are so many gadgets available through Labs(google) also some uri based online gadgets can be configured. Even u may ur facebook &amp; myspace!
Wave is more of a fun material for students! as almost all google stuffs available all together. But no doubt about the developing team, HATS OFF to them for what they&#039;ve achieved.

Luved te Real-time concept(Wave/ Wavelet &amp; Blips)

But I&#039;ve just happened to find out a site http://www.zoho.com/
i agree compete&#039;g with google wd b too early to say.....
but this one provides n number of gadgets n tool to deal with personal &amp; professional data

Zoho Show : Zoho Show Online presentation tool
Zoho Invoice : Zoho Invoice Online Invoicing. Quick and Easy
Zoho Writer : Zoho Writer Online word processor
Zoho Reports : Zoho Reports Online Database &amp; Reporting
Zoho CRM : Zoho CRM On-demand Customer Relationship Management solution
Zoho Creator : Zoho Creator Online web applications creator
Zoho Planner : Zoho Planner Online organizing tool
Zoho Docs : Zoho Docs Online Document Management
Zoho Sheet : Zoho Sheet Online spreadsheet service
Zoho Meeting : Zoho Meeting Web Conferencing
Zoho Share : Zoho Share Centralized Public Repository
Zoho Notebook : Zoho Notebook Online Note Taker
Zoho Projects : Zoho Projects Project Management
Zoho Wiki : Zoho Wiki Online Wiki with public, private &amp; group permissions
Zoho Chat : Zoho Chat Instant messaging and group chat tool

hope u like this!
Avishek</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As per my understanding Wave wd be a common networking platform along with better UI &amp; sophisticated gadgets, that u may even get by configuring ur gmail settings. There are so many gadgets available through Labs(google) also some uri based online gadgets can be configured. Even u may ur facebook &amp; myspace!<br />
Wave is more of a fun material for students! as almost all google stuffs available all together. But no doubt about the developing team, HATS OFF to them for what they&#8217;ve achieved.</p>
<p>Luved te Real-time concept(Wave/ Wavelet &amp; Blips)</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ve just happened to find out a site <a href="http://www.zoho.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.zoho.com/</a><br />
i agree compete&#8217;g with google wd b too early to say&#8230;..<br />
but this one provides n number of gadgets n tool to deal with personal &amp; professional data</p>
<p>Zoho Show : Zoho Show Online presentation tool<br />
Zoho Invoice : Zoho Invoice Online Invoicing. Quick and Easy<br />
Zoho Writer : Zoho Writer Online word processor<br />
Zoho Reports : Zoho Reports Online Database &amp; Reporting<br />
Zoho CRM : Zoho CRM On-demand Customer Relationship Management solution<br />
Zoho Creator : Zoho Creator Online web applications creator<br />
Zoho Planner : Zoho Planner Online organizing tool<br />
Zoho Docs : Zoho Docs Online Document Management<br />
Zoho Sheet : Zoho Sheet Online spreadsheet service<br />
Zoho Meeting : Zoho Meeting Web Conferencing<br />
Zoho Share : Zoho Share Centralized Public Repository<br />
Zoho Notebook : Zoho Notebook Online Note Taker<br />
Zoho Projects : Zoho Projects Project Management<br />
Zoho Wiki : Zoho Wiki Online Wiki with public, private &amp; group permissions<br />
Zoho Chat : Zoho Chat Instant messaging and group chat tool</p>
<p>hope u like this!<br />
Avishek</p>
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		<title>By: Molly</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>Molly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 10:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Wave for it&#039;s functionality, however I don&#039;t see email nor IMs disappearing either. IMs are very useful for quick, time sensitive messages as well as just a fast Hi, I&#039;m -working, -so -are --you- so -let&#039;s -get -together -later type conversations. Emails are usually longer and are also private for the most part not only by design but by choice. Many messages wouldn&#039;t transition well or at all from IMs and email to Wave. Corporate communications are already handled by other applications that have the same functionality as Wave so it&#039;s a competition to those methods, not a replacement for them.
The very openness that Google touts for Wave (the only &#039;new&#039; feature that I can discern so far) is a major limit to  it&#039;s marketing. Privacy is a huge issue with quite a few on my IM and email lists so I usually Cc instead of using the address bar as per request by friends and business associates alike. Then you have the differences between communications: some I send links on website development, some music industry insider information, some are artists, some gardeners, etc... They aren&#039;t interested in what I send to the others on my list. Sure Wave can be made private, buy why take up the bandwidth when an email or IM will suit the purpose just fine?
 btw, Bandwidth usage is an issue I haven&#039;t seen addressed yet. There are quite a few very active computer users who are on older models and my impression is that Wave can really suck the juice even in the early stages of a Wave. What happens to a Wave conversation as it ages? Is it still back there, sucking bandwidth, is it auto archived to save bandwidth for users? If the former, what&#039; s being done about low end computer users participating in discussions on a Wave? 
Moving back to the privacy issue, when I&#039;m writing everyone knows to leave me alone to write in peace. I can&#039;t concentrate if someone&#039;s reading over my shoulder so can imagine the writer&#039;s block that would be created if people could respond in real time when I type. My question is why bother, other than to have a new toy? It&#039;s not only polite to wait until someone&#039;s made their point completely before interrupting, it&#039;s conducive to rational debate. I don&#039;t want to see what a blogger/educator is typing until they&#039;re done. Their thoughts aren&#039;t complete until they hit send. Then I can read it, analysis it and respond in a thoughtful manner. 
Sorry, but I don&#039;t see Wave as innovative and useful at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Wave for it&#8217;s functionality, however I don&#8217;t see email nor IMs disappearing either. IMs are very useful for quick, time sensitive messages as well as just a fast Hi, I&#8217;m -working, -so -are &#8211;you- so -let&#8217;s -get -together -later type conversations. Emails are usually longer and are also private for the most part not only by design but by choice. Many messages wouldn&#8217;t transition well or at all from IMs and email to Wave. Corporate communications are already handled by other applications that have the same functionality as Wave so it&#8217;s a competition to those methods, not a replacement for them.<br />
The very openness that Google touts for Wave (the only &#8216;new&#8217; feature that I can discern so far) is a major limit to  it&#8217;s marketing. Privacy is a huge issue with quite a few on my IM and email lists so I usually Cc instead of using the address bar as per request by friends and business associates alike. Then you have the differences between communications: some I send links on website development, some music industry insider information, some are artists, some gardeners, etc&#8230; They aren&#8217;t interested in what I send to the others on my list. Sure Wave can be made private, buy why take up the bandwidth when an email or IM will suit the purpose just fine?<br />
 btw, Bandwidth usage is an issue I haven&#8217;t seen addressed yet. There are quite a few very active computer users who are on older models and my impression is that Wave can really suck the juice even in the early stages of a Wave. What happens to a Wave conversation as it ages? Is it still back there, sucking bandwidth, is it auto archived to save bandwidth for users? If the former, what&#8217; s being done about low end computer users participating in discussions on a Wave?<br />
Moving back to the privacy issue, when I&#8217;m writing everyone knows to leave me alone to write in peace. I can&#8217;t concentrate if someone&#8217;s reading over my shoulder so can imagine the writer&#8217;s block that would be created if people could respond in real time when I type. My question is why bother, other than to have a new toy? It&#8217;s not only polite to wait until someone&#8217;s made their point completely before interrupting, it&#8217;s conducive to rational debate. I don&#8217;t want to see what a blogger/educator is typing until they&#8217;re done. Their thoughts aren&#8217;t complete until they hit send. Then I can read it, analysis it and respond in a thoughtful manner.<br />
Sorry, but I don&#8217;t see Wave as innovative and useful at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Gavin</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Gavin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I too was massively excited about this as in a sense it models some of my wishes for convergence between these different services.  I have already often used IM (google talk and skype) to send people short messages knowing that they were not online, but would pick them up as soon as they were - instead of email - and then picked up the conversation in real-time later.

In some cases, I have even done this for work related items - although I am sure this is against company policy.  However, this is where once again, despite the promise and the theory, how much of the internet revolution is going to revolutionise the corporate world - and how much is going to be limited to the social, entertainment and media worlds?

The fact that google brings in things like facebook and picasso says to me straight away &#039;Not Corporate&#039; and makes me suspect that they know this and are not aiming at it.  (Initially)

I really do not know how much corporate world buy in this will get and at the end of the day - is this really an entertainment service or an economic enabler?  I suspect &#039;Internet Startups&#039; and creative type industries will rush to adopt - but will large corporates?  I doubt it - but it will no-doubt spawn closed wall versions with adoption of some features by corporates.  

Unified messaging is definitely desirable and wanted by the corporate world - but in this form ... I think not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I too was massively excited about this as in a sense it models some of my wishes for convergence between these different services.  I have already often used IM (google talk and skype) to send people short messages knowing that they were not online, but would pick them up as soon as they were &#8211; instead of email &#8211; and then picked up the conversation in real-time later.</p>
<p>In some cases, I have even done this for work related items &#8211; although I am sure this is against company policy.  However, this is where once again, despite the promise and the theory, how much of the internet revolution is going to revolutionise the corporate world &#8211; and how much is going to be limited to the social, entertainment and media worlds?</p>
<p>The fact that google brings in things like facebook and picasso says to me straight away &#8216;Not Corporate&#8217; and makes me suspect that they know this and are not aiming at it.  (Initially)</p>
<p>I really do not know how much corporate world buy in this will get and at the end of the day &#8211; is this really an entertainment service or an economic enabler?  I suspect &#8216;Internet Startups&#8217; and creative type industries will rush to adopt &#8211; but will large corporates?  I doubt it &#8211; but it will no-doubt spawn closed wall versions with adoption of some features by corporates.  </p>
<p>Unified messaging is definitely desirable and wanted by the corporate world &#8211; but in this form &#8230; I think not?</p>
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		<title>By: stephen pang</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-592</link>
		<dc:creator>stephen pang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Wave demo was amazing. The real-time collaboration features (dragging in new participants; hiding private parts of the conversation) and ability to replay threads was not a new idea since we all do this today with current tools with varying levels of success. What was great was that Google understood this and created Wave to allow us to do this with more ease and discipline :).

As for corporations handing over work conversations and information to the open internet? I don&#039;t think so. The reason is because it&#039;s not just about a great interface or way of organizing info it&#039;s about the security and integrity of the open internet. You mention the Blackberry. Yes, its a good form-factor and great interface for messaging and communications, but the secret sauce is its dedicated messaging server (separate from your regular mobile service) and security derived from this which enables a higher SLA (even though BB has failed once or twice.)

But, remember it&#039;s hard to change folks&#039; habits. Several years ago an analyst asked whether internet users were happy with a single destination for email, IM, photos etc. At the time I said &quot;No.&quot;  I was still using several destinations for these services. The Wave and other new services make me reconsider my answer, but I still prefer Flickr over Picasa. I use Yahoo way more than Gmail. I don&#039;t IM, but if I do my networks are on Skype and Facebook. So it looks like my bookmarks will remain intact for now. However, I&#039;d love to add wave.google.com to that list (I just made that up:) )

Sp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Wave demo was amazing. The real-time collaboration features (dragging in new participants; hiding private parts of the conversation) and ability to replay threads was not a new idea since we all do this today with current tools with varying levels of success. What was great was that Google understood this and created Wave to allow us to do this with more ease and discipline <img src='http://www.telecomcircle.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
<p>As for corporations handing over work conversations and information to the open internet? I don&#8217;t think so. The reason is because it&#8217;s not just about a great interface or way of organizing info it&#8217;s about the security and integrity of the open internet. You mention the Blackberry. Yes, its a good form-factor and great interface for messaging and communications, but the secret sauce is its dedicated messaging server (separate from your regular mobile service) and security derived from this which enables a higher SLA (even though BB has failed once or twice.)</p>
<p>But, remember it&#8217;s hard to change folks&#8217; habits. Several years ago an analyst asked whether internet users were happy with a single destination for email, IM, photos etc. At the time I said &#8220;No.&#8221;  I was still using several destinations for these services. The Wave and other new services make me reconsider my answer, but I still prefer Flickr over Picasa. I use Yahoo way more than Gmail. I don&#8217;t IM, but if I do my networks are on Skype and Facebook. So it looks like my bookmarks will remain intact for now. However, I&#8217;d love to add wave.google.com to that list (I just made that up:) )</p>
<p>Sp</p>
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		<title>By: Thor Hammer</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/06/google-wave/comment-page-1/#comment-590</link>
		<dc:creator>Thor Hammer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you that this will change the way many of us work, I was completely blown away by the demo. I don&#039;t see that immediate threat to SharePoint however. I don&#039;t see Wave as a document repository. I rather see Microsoft&#039;s stronghold on the business users through Exchange and Outlook as a block for Wave.

As Wave is open source, with open APIs, etc, it should be fairly straight forward for Microsoft to integrate Wave with Exchange. I.e., add Wave functionality to their platform. A win-win for both companies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you that this will change the way many of us work, I was completely blown away by the demo. I don&#8217;t see that immediate threat to SharePoint however. I don&#8217;t see Wave as a document repository. I rather see Microsoft&#8217;s stronghold on the business users through Exchange and Outlook as a block for Wave.</p>
<p>As Wave is open source, with open APIs, etc, it should be fairly straight forward for Microsoft to integrate Wave with Exchange. I.e., add Wave functionality to their platform. A win-win for both companies?</p>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by KellyBronx</dc:creator>
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