Comments on: Menace called China’s Shanzhai Mobile Phones http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/ Telecom Circle analyses the latest trends and services within the Wireless and Internet space. Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:03:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: MediaTek-Android Deal to Grow Shanzhai Further? | Jeremy Justice http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-2351 MediaTek-Android Deal to Grow Shanzhai Further? | Jeremy Justice Mon, 19 Jul 2010 04:18:27 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-2351 [...] chipsets specifically for Android. For those familiar with the Shanzhai concept and market (read here for more info), this could be a game changer in developing markets where this approach continues to [...] [...] chipsets specifically for Android. For those familiar with the Shanzhai concept and market (read here for more info), this could be a game changer in developing markets where this approach continues to [...]

]]> By: Shanzhai Mobile Phones: ‘Bandit Phones’ or ‘Fake Phones’ from China’s Wild West | Escort Multimedia - Computers Mobile Phones 3G Technology http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-2330 Shanzhai Mobile Phones: ‘Bandit Phones’ or ‘Fake Phones’ from China’s Wild West | Escort Multimedia - Computers Mobile Phones 3G Technology Sat, 10 Jul 2010 09:02:38 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-2330 [...] market for Shanzhai cell phones lies not only in China, but also in the surrounding developing countries in Asia or even third world [...] [...] market for Shanzhai cell phones lies not only in China, but also in the surrounding developing countries in Asia or even third world [...]

]]> By: Can Knock-Off Products Help Situate Modernity in China’s Emergent Culture? » Vital Objects http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-1092 Can Knock-Off Products Help Situate Modernity in China’s Emergent Culture? » Vital Objects Mon, 05 Oct 2009 16:18:46 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-1092 [...] take cell phone designs as an example. Recently reported by The New York Times and Telecom Circle, the knock-off cell phones from China, called shanzhai phones, are a big [...] [...] take cell phone designs as an example. Recently reported by The New York Times and Telecom Circle, the knock-off cell phones from China, called shanzhai phones, are a big [...]

]]> By: vijay deep verma http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-1089 vijay deep verma Thu, 01 Oct 2009 09:06:18 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-1089 Hi, Very fact that this article on "sanzai" (fake) devices has gone unnoticed among the members (including me!!) of this group as also the 'Linked in community', prooves the low level of awareness about the debilitating effect such unbridled Menace has on society. Recent incidents of terrorists/anti-social elements using such devices (without the IMEI nos. - that cannnot be tracked & traced) for perpetrating their criminal activties are eye openers. Looks like the service providers have found a patch to the problem since IMEI nos. will be issued to the users @ Rs 199/- (US $2). This action on the part of the Indian Govt as well as the service providers is short sighted and self defeating. Rather, such devices should be blocked out of the network as a penalty to the subscribers that have acquired these illegal devices in the 1st place as a measure of National security. Imagine the ripple effect this simple action would have - in consumers rejecting such mobile devices outright with immediate effect. Any amount of profit, innovation cannot be sustituted for the need to ensure security for the society at large. Amazingly, just 50 mil handsets (about 17%) are being sold in China (the base for its manufacture) out of about 300 mil being manufactured ie. the balance 87% are being sold in developing countries - asia, africa, middle east. If the Chinese Govt does not clamp down on them soon, it is in the interest of the affected countries to join hands and drive such 'rogue manufacturers', out of business. The stake holders in India should take the lead. Hi,
Very fact that this article on “sanzai” (fake) devices has gone unnoticed among the members (including me!!) of this group as also the ‘Linked in community’, prooves the low level of awareness about the debilitating effect such unbridled Menace has on society. Recent incidents of terrorists/anti-social elements using such devices (without the IMEI nos. – that cannnot be tracked & traced) for perpetrating their criminal activties are eye openers.

Looks like the service providers have found a patch to the problem since IMEI nos. will be issued to the users @ Rs 199/- (US $2). This action on the part of the Indian Govt as well as the service providers is short sighted and self defeating. Rather, such devices should be blocked out of the network as a penalty to the subscribers that have acquired these illegal devices in the 1st place as a measure of National security. Imagine the ripple effect this simple action would have – in consumers rejecting such mobile devices outright with immediate effect.

Any amount of profit, innovation cannot be sustituted for the need to ensure security for the society at large. Amazingly, just 50 mil handsets (about 17%) are being sold in China (the base for its manufacture) out of about 300 mil being manufactured ie. the balance 87% are being sold in developing countries – asia, africa, middle east.

If the Chinese Govt does not clamp down on them soon, it is in the interest of the affected countries to join hands and drive such ‘rogue manufacturers’, out of business. The stake holders in India should take the lead.

]]> By: Menace called China's Shanzhai Mobile Phones | Telecom Circle | HandyCells.Com http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-935 Menace called China's Shanzhai Mobile Phones | Telecom Circle | HandyCells.Com Sun, 16 Aug 2009 07:42:52 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-935 [...] Original post: Menace called China's Shanzhai Mobile Phones | Telecom Circle [...] [...] Original post: Menace called China's Shanzhai Mobile Phones | Telecom Circle [...]

]]> By: Ajay Gupta http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-934 Ajay Gupta Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:47:11 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-934 Dear Mr. Mohit , i am not agree with you. MTK/Chinese phones has good future. y-o-y jump itself proofs it. These handsets benefit user at the time of purchase itself , as comes at half the price of Nokia. This trend will soon make handsets disposable resulting in booming demand of mobile phones. Boom in demand will results in more jobs and revenue for government. MTK handsets are already helping operators as operators are making/branding handsets in their own names example Vodafine in India. I see no reason as why Nokia will not be number 3 or 4 within next 1-2 years, loosing its kingship in Indian handset market. Thanks Ajay Gupta Dear Mr. Mohit ,
i am not agree with you. MTK/Chinese phones has good future. y-o-y jump itself proofs it. These handsets benefit user at the time of purchase itself , as comes at half the price of Nokia. This trend will soon make handsets disposable resulting in booming demand of mobile phones. Boom in demand will results in more jobs and revenue for government. MTK handsets are already helping operators as operators are making/branding handsets in their own names example Vodafine in India. I see no reason as why Nokia will not be number 3 or 4 within next 1-2 years, loosing its kingship in Indian handset market.
Thanks
Ajay Gupta

]]> By: Ankur Jindal http://www.telecomcircle.com/2009/08/shanzhai-phones/comment-page-1/#comment-933 Ankur Jindal Fri, 14 Aug 2009 04:29:22 +0000 http://www.telecomcircle.com/?p=922#comment-933 Hi Mohit, Your insight into not so legal handset market in Chinese cities is really revealing and eye opening. The low cost resources and flouting of IPRs are playing to their advantage. These phones have no legacy, it is easier for them to change designs, layouts, features in each new model that they launch. They are not bound to support the models launched by them, after sales support is minimal or non existent, so we see lot of fly-by manufacturer selling at low cost and ruining the market. I would say its only time this market will start innovating as rightly pointed out by you. This would actually make the non serious players to drop out of race. This is going to have major impact on the handset vendors like Nokia, Apple especially who have their bases in US and Europe. The next growth markets are India, China, Africa and MEA. Most of these markets are price sensitive, so low cost handsets from Chinese market could see a huge growth in these markets if the issues like reliability and after sales support are addressed. Rgds Ankur Hi Mohit,

Your insight into not so legal handset market in Chinese cities is really revealing and eye opening. The low cost resources and flouting of IPRs are playing to their advantage. These phones have no legacy, it is easier for them to change designs, layouts, features in each new model that they launch. They are not bound to support the models launched by them, after sales support is minimal or non existent, so we see lot of fly-by manufacturer selling at low cost and ruining the market.

I would say its only time this market will start innovating as rightly pointed out by you. This would actually make the non serious players to drop out of race. This is going to have major impact on the handset vendors like Nokia, Apple especially who have their bases in US and Europe. The next growth markets are India, China, Africa and MEA. Most of these markets are price sensitive, so low cost handsets from Chinese market could see a huge growth in these markets if the issues like reliability and after sales support are addressed.

Rgds
Ankur

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