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		<title>By: Who will win in the Smartphones business?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Who will win in the Smartphones business?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Sep 2010 16:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The smartphones has been the fastest growing category within the mobile phone space for the last couple of years. In 2009, a total of 172 million smartphones were sold which was a growth of 24% over 2008 (source: Gartner) whereas the mobile phone category was more or less flat in 2009 in the backdrop of severe recession. Analysts expect over 240 million Smartphones to be sold in 2010. Go to item [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The smartphones has been the fastest growing category within the mobile phone space for the last couple of years. In 2009, a total of 172 million smartphones were sold which was a growth of 24% over 2008 (source: Gartner) whereas the mobile phone category was more or less flat in 2009 in the backdrop of severe recession. Analysts expect over 240 million Smartphones to be sold in 2010. Go to item [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Arjun</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2560</link>
		<dc:creator>Arjun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word - &#039;multi-tasking&#039; (ok, maybe tht was 2). And the winner is - Android</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word &#8211; &#8216;multi-tasking&#8217; (ok, maybe tht was 2). And the winner is &#8211; Android</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2559</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 04:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go do your own research buddy! This is the wrong forum to be asking for help with your homework</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go do your own research buddy! This is the wrong forum to be asking for help with your homework</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2089</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 04:52:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points.  Besides cost, Google has made smart choices in how they are building the developmental framework:

Developers have told me that programming applications is open, straight forward, efficient and takes advantage of ongoing open development efforts such as in social networking, and GPS/mapping.  While this can help lead to lower cost per device and application, it also helps build the ecosystem support.  

Developers have to worry about a lot of things: will their app be a success?  What can they sell it for or how can they earn advertising or other means of revenue? Are there any roadblocks, such as can be the case with Apple iPhone OS?  

Because of the ways they derive their revenue, Google is viewed as a neutral party in the furthering of their open OS environment.  Outside of incubator efforts such as their HTC Nexus One, they are not a prime competitor to handset suppliers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.  Besides cost, Google has made smart choices in how they are building the developmental framework:</p>
<p>Developers have told me that programming applications is open, straight forward, efficient and takes advantage of ongoing open development efforts such as in social networking, and GPS/mapping.  While this can help lead to lower cost per device and application, it also helps build the ecosystem support.  </p>
<p>Developers have to worry about a lot of things: will their app be a success?  What can they sell it for or how can they earn advertising or other means of revenue? Are there any roadblocks, such as can be the case with Apple iPhone OS?  </p>
<p>Because of the ways they derive their revenue, Google is viewed as a neutral party in the furthering of their open OS environment.  Outside of incubator efforts such as their HTC Nexus One, they are not a prime competitor to handset suppliers.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Syputa</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2062</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Syputa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 20:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points.  Besides cost, Google has made smart choices in how they are building the developmental framework:

Developers have told me that programming applications is open, straight forward, efficient and takes advantage of ongoing open development efforts such as in social networking, and GPS/mapping.  While this can help lead to lower cost per device and application, it also helps build the ecosystem support.  

Developers have to worry about a lot of things: will their app be a success?  What can they sell it for or how can they earn advertising or other means of revenue? Are there any roadblocks, such as can be the case with Apple iPhone OS?  

Because of the ways they derive their revenue, Google is viewed as a neutral party in the furthering of their open OS environment.  Outside of incubator efforts such as their HTC Nexus One, they are not a prime competitor to handset suppliers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points.  Besides cost, Google has made smart choices in how they are building the developmental framework:</p>
<p>Developers have told me that programming applications is open, straight forward, efficient and takes advantage of ongoing open development efforts such as in social networking, and GPS/mapping.  While this can help lead to lower cost per device and application, it also helps build the ecosystem support.  </p>
<p>Developers have to worry about a lot of things: will their app be a success?  What can they sell it for or how can they earn advertising or other means of revenue? Are there any roadblocks, such as can be the case with Apple iPhone OS?  </p>
<p>Because of the ways they derive their revenue, Google is viewed as a neutral party in the furthering of their open OS environment.  Outside of incubator efforts such as their HTC Nexus One, they are not a prime competitor to handset suppliers.</p>
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		<title>By: Sahil Singh</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2052</link>
		<dc:creator>Sahil Singh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Apr 2010 06:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,
 I will appreciate if any one would help me about the details of INQ mobile (Product/Features).Also its competitor,means comparative analysis between INQ &amp; Others mobile.

Plz help me in this assingment.



regards


Sahil


# Note: Plz mail the details on vinu_sahil@rediffmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
 I will appreciate if any one would help me about the details of INQ mobile (Product/Features).Also its competitor,means comparative analysis between INQ &amp; Others mobile.</p>
<p>Plz help me in this assingment.</p>
<p>regards</p>
<p>Sahil</p>
<p># Note: Plz mail the details on <a href="mailto:vinu_sahil@rediffmail.com">vinu_sahil@rediffmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mohit Agrawal</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mohit Agrawal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 18:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Amit,

I am not suggesting that Android will get 40% market share. I merely reproduced the survey results which shows that over 40% people feel that Android has the highest potential.

I agree with you that Chinese devices + Android is a lethal combination and can really put pressure on other device vendors. However, such a scenario would not be good for the industry given that most of the Chinese handsets flout all the standards, health tests and IPR/tax laws.

Regards,

Mohit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Amit,</p>
<p>I am not suggesting that Android will get 40% market share. I merely reproduced the survey results which shows that over 40% people feel that Android has the highest potential.</p>
<p>I agree with you that Chinese devices + Android is a lethal combination and can really put pressure on other device vendors. However, such a scenario would not be good for the industry given that most of the Chinese handsets flout all the standards, health tests and IPR/tax laws.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Mohit</p>
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		<title>By: Amit</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2024</link>
		<dc:creator>Amit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 05:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mohit,

You have given a verdict on future market share ..but no timeline is given for it. Can you give a time frame in which the android will have 40% market share ??

With so many people voting for android, there must be something very special about it. That is also missing in this post. I would like to add why i feel Android will be the most popular.

Parallels with symbian -  Symbian started with high end phone but soon nokia started launching symbian in all categories ( low, medium and high end). Same is going to be the case with Android. When we will have an Android phone for 8K, 12K, 15K and 25K, there will be something for everyone. 

Atleast 50 design houses in china are working on Android devices. Just imagine what will happen in next 2 years.  Hardware costs will be down and most of these design houses would have gained enough expertise on Android to launch &quot;device a month&quot; ( like they have on MTK today). &quot;Spice&quot;, &quot;Lava&quot;, &quot;MicroMax&quot;, &quot;Karbounn&quot; etc will be launching what their ODMs from china will give them. That will be all android.

Once chinese vendors will start launchig android devices in sub 10K range, Iphone, Windows Mobile or any other Phone priced over 20K will face really tough competition. 

Challenge facing Android: Only Qualcomm is providing cheap chipsets for Android devices as of now. For hardware costs to come down, some real good competition is needed in chipset providers.

I THINK: It is not Open OS, Touch Screen, Google Factor or anything else which will make android successful. it will be cheap, reliable smart phones at 8K-12K  which will make Android most successful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mohit,</p>
<p>You have given a verdict on future market share ..but no timeline is given for it. Can you give a time frame in which the android will have 40% market share ??</p>
<p>With so many people voting for android, there must be something very special about it. That is also missing in this post. I would like to add why i feel Android will be the most popular.</p>
<p>Parallels with symbian &#8211;  Symbian started with high end phone but soon nokia started launching symbian in all categories ( low, medium and high end). Same is going to be the case with Android. When we will have an Android phone for 8K, 12K, 15K and 25K, there will be something for everyone. </p>
<p>Atleast 50 design houses in china are working on Android devices. Just imagine what will happen in next 2 years.  Hardware costs will be down and most of these design houses would have gained enough expertise on Android to launch &#8220;device a month&#8221; ( like they have on MTK today). &#8220;Spice&#8221;, &#8220;Lava&#8221;, &#8220;MicroMax&#8221;, &#8220;Karbounn&#8221; etc will be launching what their ODMs from china will give them. That will be all android.</p>
<p>Once chinese vendors will start launchig android devices in sub 10K range, Iphone, Windows Mobile or any other Phone priced over 20K will face really tough competition. </p>
<p>Challenge facing Android: Only Qualcomm is providing cheap chipsets for Android devices as of now. For hardware costs to come down, some real good competition is needed in chipset providers.</p>
<p>I THINK: It is not Open OS, Touch Screen, Google Factor or anything else which will make android successful. it will be cheap, reliable smart phones at 8K-12K  which will make Android most successful.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Bergeron</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Bergeron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel as though all the Operating systems are at a point where the needs of the consumer are finally getting looked at. Android will implement this best, as its open, the users get their say in how things are done, and not to mention it is quite a bit more enjoyable than using the Iphone. The market for Android in Canada isn&#039;t huge, but thats because Bell, the biggest carrier in canada, won&#039;t bring anything android in, other than the samsung galaxy. On rogers/Telus the demand for android phones outweighs the demand for iphones.

I personally will be moving on to android when windows phone 7 is in the market. I&#039;m completely against the windows phone 7 operating system, and its ability to alienate all of the windows mobile users in one fell swoop. No one wan&#039;ts a microsoft Iphone.

My conclusion:
Google is slowly taking over the world.
Good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel as though all the Operating systems are at a point where the needs of the consumer are finally getting looked at. Android will implement this best, as its open, the users get their say in how things are done, and not to mention it is quite a bit more enjoyable than using the Iphone. The market for Android in Canada isn&#8217;t huge, but thats because Bell, the biggest carrier in canada, won&#8217;t bring anything android in, other than the samsung galaxy. On rogers/Telus the demand for android phones outweighs the demand for iphones.</p>
<p>I personally will be moving on to android when windows phone 7 is in the market. I&#8217;m completely against the windows phone 7 operating system, and its ability to alienate all of the windows mobile users in one fell swoop. No one wan&#8217;ts a microsoft Iphone.</p>
<p>My conclusion:<br />
Google is slowly taking over the world.<br />
Good.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawna Tregunna</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2006</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawna Tregunna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the Canadian retail space the names consumers are still asking for much more than any others are iPhone and BlackBerry. We have not seen the demand for Android that was expected and people don’t come in and &#039;ask&#039; for Symbian so there is no loyalty there and the consumers for Symbian seem to be less tech savvy and end up with it by sheer coincidence. Not that consumer demand makes one better than another and granted the Canadian market is known to be a much younger market (meaning not as developed not demographics.) Windows users have significantly dropped off other than niche app users that must have Windows X work on their device. I estimate Windows will lose market share as time goes on unless there is some earth shattering development. 
Those are my observations from my little corner of the world, great article, thank you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the Canadian retail space the names consumers are still asking for much more than any others are iPhone and BlackBerry. We have not seen the demand for Android that was expected and people don’t come in and &#8216;ask&#8217; for Symbian so there is no loyalty there and the consumers for Symbian seem to be less tech savvy and end up with it by sheer coincidence. Not that consumer demand makes one better than another and granted the Canadian market is known to be a much younger market (meaning not as developed not demographics.) Windows users have significantly dropped off other than niche app users that must have Windows X work on their device. I estimate Windows will lose market share as time goes on unless there is some earth shattering development.<br />
Those are my observations from my little corner of the world, great article, thank you!</p>
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		<title>By: Sasko Karakulev</title>
		<link>http://www.telecomcircle.com/2010/04/smartphone/comment-page-1/#comment-2005</link>
		<dc:creator>Sasko Karakulev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No winning device no winning OS, no winninig platform Everyone of the platforms will have his own target group of susbcribers on the market. 
My own vision is that will be &quot;indoor&quot;, &quot;outdoor&quot;, &quot;sport&quot;, &quot;luxary&quot;, &quot;low consuption&quot;, and other devices with similar segmentation as it is in the car industry, today. 
Most probably one subscriber will have many different devices in same time, case depending from the particular moment

Regards
Sasko</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No winning device no winning OS, no winninig platform Everyone of the platforms will have his own target group of susbcribers on the market.<br />
My own vision is that will be &#8220;indoor&#8221;, &#8220;outdoor&#8221;, &#8220;sport&#8221;, &#8220;luxary&#8221;, &#8220;low consuption&#8221;, and other devices with similar segmentation as it is in the car industry, today.<br />
Most probably one subscriber will have many different devices in same time, case depending from the particular moment</p>
<p>Regards<br />
Sasko</p>
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		<title>By: Chris McLean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Customer! 

Competition among device manufactures will lead to more inovation, more applications and drive prices lower. For too long RIM had a stranglehold on the &quot;Smartphone&quot; marketplace and their reliance on using their own flakey network. Apple is making in roads on the corporate front and google will do the same. Mircorsoft has seemed to have woken up but will need to mend a lot of fences. I think there will be a interesting sub-market created for softeware that ports applications between the various platforms. The less costly it is to develop for multiple platforms the better it will be for the application developers and most importantly the consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Customer! </p>
<p>Competition among device manufactures will lead to more inovation, more applications and drive prices lower. For too long RIM had a stranglehold on the &#8220;Smartphone&#8221; marketplace and their reliance on using their own flakey network. Apple is making in roads on the corporate front and google will do the same. Mircorsoft has seemed to have woken up but will need to mend a lot of fences. I think there will be a interesting sub-market created for softeware that ports applications between the various platforms. The less costly it is to develop for multiple platforms the better it will be for the application developers and most importantly the consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: sameer chavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>sameer chavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Apr 2010 00:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Symbian was one of the most popular. But as you said, its really outdated for touch screens and multi-touch. Windows have been having very bad dirty UI using only stylus. They have recently copied from other OS to make it big fonts and touch.
Advantage of apple OS is all the apps are just about $0.99 where as the same are around $20 in symbian. 
The future is shifting towards android as its free and open. Allows the power of Google internet data connections. But if you see, each OS is backed by one company. Which is a big problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Symbian was one of the most popular. But as you said, its really outdated for touch screens and multi-touch. Windows have been having very bad dirty UI using only stylus. They have recently copied from other OS to make it big fonts and touch.<br />
Advantage of apple OS is all the apps are just about $0.99 where as the same are around $20 in symbian.<br />
The future is shifting towards android as its free and open. Allows the power of Google internet data connections. But if you see, each OS is backed by one company. Which is a big problem.</p>
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